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the place roughing masters almost surely

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there beyond the realm of man and two

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all right higher side Cheddar's anyone

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who's been a fan of conspiracy lore has

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seen quite a few explosive stories over

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the years from deep state sagas like the

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Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk

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Project to the Roswell crash an

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operation Highjump and it's hard to know

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exactly what the truth lies in these

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tales but it's obvious that there's a

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lot going on behind the scenes and we

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are stuck grasping at a few straws that

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have wailed loose and the nefarious

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elites nearly ironclad quarantine well I

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hope you're hungry for people because

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today we're taking a big hearty bowl of

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that oh so good conspiracy soup with

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generous portions of both education and

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speculation cooked up by today's guest

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Tim Schwartz

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Tim is an Emmy award-winning television

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producer videographer and the author or

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co-author of many many books with titles

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like the lost journals of Nikola Tesla

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evil agenda of the secret government

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time travel a how-to guide Richard

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shaver reality of the Inner Earth

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Admiral Byrd secret journey beyond the

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poles an evil empire of the ETS and the

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ultra terrestrials just to name a few

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and with titles like that you know we're

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going to have a good time so let's get

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this party started a legend in his own

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right the Casey Kasem of conspiracy

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classics Tim my men welcome to the

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higher side fly thank you very much Greg

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it's a pleasure to be with you today

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yeah then as I mentioned you've written

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or been a part of too many great books

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to name and I've heard you talk about

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even more during radio appearances and

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to me you and the guys you write with

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the crew you run with represent kind of

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the old-school researchers that really

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introduced me to a lot of these

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conspiracy staples and stories on coast

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to coast in those early years and in

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your writing but I am really psyched to

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have you here and to kick this off

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everyone here knows I really love the

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Hollow Earth idea and the possibility of

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Inner Earth civilizations of course you

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wrote Admiral Byrd's secret journey

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beyond the poles which is a book of

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yours I've spent probably the most time

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with but it is about so much more than

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just the Admiral Byrd story of course

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that is a good one but there's actually

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a huge corpus of material and stories

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and mythology's from around the world

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related to inner worlds and the Hollow

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Earth idea doesn't just rely on

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operation Highjump does it

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no definitely not and that's what I was

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commissioned to write the Admiral Byrd

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book I really felt it would have been

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remiss not to also go into the whole

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Hollow Earth mythology because the idea

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that there is another world beneath our

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feet has been with us in myths and

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legends probably from the very beginning

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you know if you look at practically any

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society civilizations creation myths

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they have people either coming from the

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stars or coming from underneath era from

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so when it comes to the Hollow Earth

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mythologies they play an important

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factor within our really how we

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developed as humans it plays an

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important role just as much as the idea

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that you know we were brought here by

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aliens from other planets mm-hmm and

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yeah and when you dig into it you know a

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lot of bright minds have considered that

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the earth could be Hollow in your book

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you mentioned 17th century astronomer

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and mathematician Sir Edmund Halley who

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also German scientists have tenacious

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anything else we could say about bright

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minds who found this possibility worth

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exploring or had this belief well you

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the times of say like Halley when he was

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working on his concept and his concept

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was that the earth was almost like

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Russian nesting dolls it had fears

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within spheres within spheres these were

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the early days of geology and trying to

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understand you know how the earth was

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made up here in modern times we have

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supposedly you know I mean I'll take

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their word for it a better understanding

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on how the earth is made up

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just the fact that variable now to use

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earthquakes to determine what certain

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layers on the planet are made up of you

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know it's just it's absolutely

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fascinating so when you look back at

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some of these early conceptions of the

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earth and the possibility that it could

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be Hollow or you know I said feel before

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just you know how planets were formed

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and how our planet is made up but I need

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to point out also great that's I mean

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you know by no means do we have a

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perfect understanding of what's

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underneath our feet I mean either we've

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gotten kind of a general idea but we've

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never been able to go much further than

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say gosh I think maybe you know three to

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five miles I think is the deepest that

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we have managed to dig down so there's

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still a lot of unknown factors when it

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comes understanding that you know what's

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what's inside our planet mm-hmm good

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point and also it's fair to say that

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what's known isn't necessarily what's

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given out to the masses either

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oh well that's real that's true you know

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when I first became interested in the

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whole Hollow Earth mythology you know I

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one of the first things I really you

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know became interested in besides say

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you know like UFOs and you know ghosts

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books I ever bought

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you know just loudly enough happened to

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be a book written by Timothy greenback

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Lee who I worked with quite a bit now

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and his book was about the Hollow Earth

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and the Richard shaver Bureau mysteries

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and so I mean you know I've got off to a

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rich start you know on this kind of

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stuff really early on and you know the

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concept that the planet is hollow say

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like an eggshell that we live on the

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other surface and then the crust is

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maybe five hundred to a thousand miles

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thick and then the rest of it is hollow

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with maybe a Sun in the center and

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animals living on the inside I'm less

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inclined now to believe that but more

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inclined to accept the idea that the

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earth is crisscross at various levels

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with tunnels and vast caverns and you

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know things they have more along the

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lines of say like turning to the center

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of the earth

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buy jewels learned rather than and I

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books but edgar rice burroughs you know

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the guy who wrote Tarzan he wrote a

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series of adventure books called the

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pellucid R series and his pellucid R is

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talking about it with Hollow Earth

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there's a Sun in the center and there's

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you know people and prehistoric animals

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living there and there are openings and

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north and south poles that people can

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get in and out if you ever read these

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highly recommend them I highly recommend

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your listeners read them as well because

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he really I mean obviously Burroughs did

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his research for his days I think he's

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1920's 1930's sort of thing so I mean

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all of the myths and legends about the

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Hollow Earth are included in his books

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and and are really you know just a good

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treaty to read if you want to know about

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some of these early 20th century ideas

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of the Hollow Earth you know since I

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you said whether or not so this

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knowledge about a Hollow Earth may be

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kept secret from us you know that is a

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possibility I do think that it is being

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kept from us that there are underground

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areas that feel more along the lines

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some of them may actually have people

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living there that broke away from the

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human race a long time ago and kind of

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created their own civilization you know

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maybe people that are basically you know

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Homo sapiens or maybe cousins you know

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but not quite to you know Homo sapiens

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that yes definitely I think is probably

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being kept secret from us mm-hmm really

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the most exciting thing about the Hollow

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unexplored lands or unknown people's on

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the earth or in the earth that we don't

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know so yeah I'm pretty impartial too if

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it's more like a giant ant farm or an

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actual hollow cavity but I still do hold

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out hope for that hollow cavity thought

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Adams was president he got really swept

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up in the idea and apparently he

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approved an expedition to explore the

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major reason he only served one term

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because other people weren't necessarily

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on board Congress wasn't on board but

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say its original mission statement was

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related to displaying artifacts from

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this expedition that they say you know

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never happen so I guess it played a

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pretty decent role in people's minds in

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the past and I also tend to think like

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what's true for one celestial body

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should be true for all of them to an

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extent and when they crash that thing

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into the moon it rang like a bell and

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apparently Mars moon Phobos seems to be

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Hollow and there is speculation that

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both of those things could just be

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ancient alien space bases so maybe they

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aren't necessarily satellites or

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celestial bodies like the rest of them

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but they are intriguing ideas well that

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you have to consideration is the moon a

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natural object right because there's a

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hill there's been talk for a long time

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considering how large the Earth's moon

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is in comparison to other moons and our

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planets you know of course jupiter has

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moons that are almost as big as you know

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some of our smaller planets but you know

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Jupiter's moons and the earth-moon

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system is just wildly out of proportion

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in comparison with the rest of the solar

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system I mean it's all my

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a binary planet system if the orbits

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were a little bit different it would be

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a binary planet system but the idea that

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the moon is hollow was brought about by

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several Russian astronomers back in the

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early 1960s and then when you have like

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you said when they crashed some of the

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spent boosters from the Saturn five

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rockets onto the surface of the Moon it

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did seem to indicate that there's

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something unusual about the composition

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of the moon you know possibly you know

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some people have said that the moon was

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actually like a giant spaceship right

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that brought us here to this planet from

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someplace else you know or maybe it's a

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deaths you know like a spent Death Star

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I love it yeah I don't necessarily

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believe that concept but you know

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considering how unusual the moon is in

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comparison with the other moons of the

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solar system the way that it is

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perfectly set up that when it crosses

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the disk of the Sun it creates a perfect

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solar eclipse I mean things like that to

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me seemed to be beyond coincidence right

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it seems to be planned for what reason I

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don't know but that's just one of many

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you know examples that you know that I

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have found over the years concerning you

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know our planet the moon other planets

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universe and in general that makes me

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think that there's more going on than a

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lot of our scientist stars are letting

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on possibly you know they don't realize

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it themselves because most scientists

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nowadays are materialist and anything

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that seems to counteract that idea

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they're naturally going to shut down and

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not listen to it and of course any any

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of the scientists who are interested in

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this kind of stuff they kind of treat it

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like a hobby and don't tell anybody else

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about it because boy that's a great way

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to lose your tenure or any future

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funding if your peers ever find out that

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you're interested

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you know some of this fringe material

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for the speaker yes

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cheers to that and it is tough to know

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exactly what elements to put stock into

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but it does seem a lot of the time like

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we are just living on one of the gears

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of the great cosmic grandfather clock

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and you also mentioned in the book

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Marshall B Gardner he's a scientist who

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spent two decades studying the aurora

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borealis and he said he was convinced

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that it came from light from inside the

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earth I think that is a provocative clue

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of course the poles are fairly heavily

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guarded and you know there's all that

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speculation that we can't get there we

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can't actually see holes but we can see

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the aurora borealis and it is

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interesting do you put any stock in that

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idea or not so much not so much I mean I

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I do accept the Givenchy idea that the

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aura borealis is you know the result of

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solar winds interacting with the Earth's

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magnetic field however there was an

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interesting picture

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that came out a few years ago of

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antarctica and this was a satellite

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picture and it seemed to show the

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Southern Lights coming out of what

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appeared to be rather large opening not

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quite as large as say like a bull or

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opening has been supposed by theorists

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on Hollow Earth but still you know like

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a large cave and it seems to show this

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electrified light coming out of it

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so whether or not it's a situation where

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you're seeing you know say like an inner

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Sun being reflected off of the polar ice

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you know something like that it's

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probably a little simplistic I think

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however considering the way that the

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planet is wrapped with all kinds of

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electrical fields fields of radiation

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and things like that if you do have

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openings of some kind that lead into the

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interior of the planet more than likely

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you're going to find the

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at these lines of force we'll also you

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know move in and out of these openings

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and of course when you have these highly

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magnetic and electrified fields of

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course surrounding the planet any

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interaction with the Sun and other

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cosmic forces is going to create

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different kinds of lighting patterns

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whether it's you know like the

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electrified gases like Nasir or Laurie

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Alice or something along those lines of

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fields of radiation even so I mean I

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think that it is a possibility but the

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idea that's you know I said like the

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inner Sun is reflecting off the ice that

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is probably less likely than some of

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these other ideas that I just put forth

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there enough well you're speaking my

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language and I also wanted to ask you

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about this person dr. Wendy Lockwood she

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wrote a piece that is actually chapter 9

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in your book and one provocative quote

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from that chapter is where she says that

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NASA certainly knows about the northern

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entrance to the Hollow Earth and I

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suspect heart may be directed at seeking

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ways to penetrate those inner worlds

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which is a provocative idea I never

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considered that HAARP could somehow be

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related a lot of people also especially

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in the legends and the mythology

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considered anything under the umbrella

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Inner Earth they considered almost like

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a more of a spiritual place of some type

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but I just thought that was really

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interesting I've heard a lot of thoughts

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about what HAARP could be never have I

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heard it you know talked about in that

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way but I also bring her up because I

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went to her website and there is really

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a ton there except for a few articles

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and a logo that looks a lot like many

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secret society logos but it has a Hollow

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Earth on it and it says contact dr.

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Wendy Lockwood if you'd like to know

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more about the web of light mystery

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school and the site seemed like it was

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connected to yours or Timothy Beckley

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site but it's just super provocative to

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me can you tell us anything more about

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her or this mystery school in particular

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yes well I should say that dr. Lockwood

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I have a bird Cooper

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in quite a while gosh I mean I think the

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last time that I spoke with her was

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probably about five or six years ago and

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at that time she was not in the best of

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health so you know I mean I don't want

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to go on the air and say that she has

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possibly passed on because I don't know

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that for sure but yeah that could be

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situation right and you're absolutely

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correct

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dr. Lockwood used to be a writer for Tim

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Bekker

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she wrote articles for his old magazines

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and some chapters for some of his early

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books and her teachings are more along

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the metaphysical lines and her ideas of

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say like a Hollow Earth and places like

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that tend to be her idea is that they

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tend to be more on a spiritual or other

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dimensional realm

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she thinks that there are physical

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entrances to the Hollow Earth but that

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after you go say like a certain distance

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then you actually are no longer in this

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sphere of reality that you know you're

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in a different plane of existence and

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she speculates that you know like all

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planets in our solar system and not just

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our soldiers we'll probably throughout

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the universe maybe operate along along

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the same ways that there is a connection

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to these other spheres of reality

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through these underground entrances

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almost to the point where say like if

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you would go to say Mars and would find

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one of these underground indexes you

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would go basically to the same reality

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as you would if you found the same type

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of cave entrance on the planet Earth

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it's almost like you know every portion

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of the real universe the physical

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universe no matter where you are that

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there are entrances to these other

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dimensional states of reality anywhere

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that you go in this universe you would

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end up in the same place I don't know if

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I make myself clear or not yeah portals

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basically yeah yeah that's basically

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that's basically it but you know it's

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you would just you no matter where you

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would go in this universe you would

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always emerge in the same place in

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whatever these other dimensional realms

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are so you know I mean it's an

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interesting theory and it's another

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aspect of this that is interesting in my

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opinion is that and I don't know if

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you're familiar with this writer but

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there was a guy by the name of T Lobsang

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rambha who wrote a number of books about

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Tibet and to that mysticism especially

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back in the 1950s and you know he

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continued to write into the 1960s as

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well but he claimed that he lived as a

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Buddhist monk and he was born in in

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Tibet and was brought into like a secret

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society when I recited I mean it you

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know like that part of Tibet nibblies

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Buddhist tradition but it goes a lot

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deeper into the mystical aspects of this

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Eastern philosophy and one of the things

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that he wrote about was that he was

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taken into a cavern system in the

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Himalayas and was taken into basically

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you know the whole ER or some of these

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huge tunnel of cavern systems to the

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underground civilization of Agartha

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which is you know like supposedly where

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like the great masters of the world

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resigned I mean you know these are the

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immortal masters of the planet that

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really lose basically they they know all

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and see all and and that sort of thing

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the interesting part of this was that at

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one

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point he came to a portal of light and

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was asked to step into it and when he

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did he found that he was on another

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planet or another reality you know I

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mean it's difficult to discern just

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exactly where he was and he didn't feel

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like that he was on planet earth anymore

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but he felt that he was in a place that

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was connected to all the planets and you

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know all the physical realms on planet

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earth that they all led to this one kind

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of like you know super mystical location

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and he was basically told by these

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highly evolved beings I mean these

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beings were evolved to the point where

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they no longer had physical bodies they

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were basically just like globes of light

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just you know like hyper intelligence

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and they were told that it was mankind's

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function to eventually evolve to become

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like our concept of angels and that our

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destiny would be to evolve into kind of

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like the state deeper into almost beams

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of pure energy and that it would be our

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task to bring other life-forms and

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intelligences to the same point and that

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every intelligent species in this

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universe or ultimate destiny is to lead

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others into this higher state of being

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which would them you know supposedly

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bring the completion of you know

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whatever the creative force of the

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entire multiverse is that we're all just

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kind of like sparks off of this creative

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force and that our goal is to you know

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help these other life-forms to to

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achieve the same goal so I mean you know

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Rama's story sounds very much like dr.

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Lockwood's ideas and of course you know

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duhkha Lockwood I mean she says that

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there are physical underground locations

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say under Mount Shasta that there's an

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actual underground city there that was

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built long time ago by remnants of

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what we would call Lemuria you know

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which would be the Pacific version of

547
00:25:02,190 --> 00:24:59,740
Atlantis

548
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:02,200
that was a civilization that supposedly

549
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:05,530
existed a number of million or so years

550
00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:08,670
ago but then for one reason or another

551
00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:11,590
site into the ocean and then the

552
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:13,630
remnants of that civilization you know

553
00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:16,570
scattered across the globe and kind of

554
00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:19,270
seeded you know help seed civilization

555
00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:21,670
from their knowledge and one of these

556
00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:24,420
remnant cities is under Mount Shasta

557
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:29,080
which is now in California mm-hmm I love

558
00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:32,230
it that's a great breakdown and another

559
00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:34,390
story from the book that is kind of

560
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,550
related to this that I was completely

561
00:25:41,850 --> 00:25:38,640
unfamiliar with apparently this guy

562
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:41,860
Pythias this Greek geographer from

563
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:46,240
around 333 BC nearly he sailed north as

564
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:48,490
far north as he could through what he

565
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:51,160
called the quote congealed seas and he

566
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:53,980
discovered a land he called dual or dual

567
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:55,570
a you know just like the old Nazi

568
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,240
occultist Society but he said that the

569
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:00,400
people there showed him the place where

570
00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:02,890
the son goes to sleep and he wrote about

571
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:05,680
the landscape as a place where land

572
00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:09,070
properly speaking no longer existed nor

573
00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:11,320
air or water but a mixture of these

574
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:13,870
things as if it was like a marine lung

575
00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:16,750
in which all matter is in suspension as

576
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:19,240
if this something was a link between all

577
00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:21,370
these elements on which one could not

578
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,740
walk or sail and that's a hell of a

579
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:25,360
story man and it kind of relates to that

580
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:28,630
model you were just describing it really

581
00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:31,630
does and modern historians I mean they

582
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:33,990
have no doubt that this guy actually

583
00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:38,170
existed because of the time and you have

584
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:41,590
realized of course that his writings no

585
00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:45,520
longer exist but he was written about by

586
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:47,560
his skeptics you know the people who

587
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:50,140
lived in his time when he came back and

588
00:26:56,730 --> 00:26:54,010
told his stories you know he basically

589
00:26:58,170 --> 00:26:56,740
was ridiculed and his skeptics wrote

590
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,180
about it yeah you know here's the crazy

591
00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:00,400
stories that this guy told us you know

592
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:03,400
that sort of thing but if you go and

593
00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:06,550
kind of strip away the archaic writing

594
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:07,900
and ideas

595
00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:10,810
that they had at the time he basically

596
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:15,040
was probably one of the first in you

597
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:17,110
know like a Greek of Western your early

598
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:21,310
Western society to discover the northern

599
00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:23,710
polar regions naturally I mean you know

600
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:25,630
you had the natives who lived up there

601
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,770
but you know they didn't communicate

602
00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:28,960
perfectly but say like with the ancient

603
00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:31,180
Greeks anybody like that right so so

604
00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:35,470
when he went past the British Isles and

605
00:27:42,150 --> 00:27:38,860
sailed further north you know he

606
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:42,160
discovered there was ice bergs floating

607
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:44,650
around and that the day's grew shorter

608
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:47,530
and you know he got to the point where

609
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:49,810
during the Arctic winter you know the

610
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,470
Sun either it never rose or just I think

611
00:27:58,500 --> 00:27:55,360
he reported that it actually just kind

612
00:28:00,420 --> 00:27:58,510
of like went along the horizon did never

613
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:00,430
got her high up it just kind of rolled

614
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:01,900
along the horizon and then went back

615
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:04,360
down again and then during the Arctic

616
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:07,570
summer it never set and so when he came

617
00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:09,100
back with these stories everybody they

618
00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:12,340
thought of him the guy yeah right you

619
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:14,560
are you obviously were you know we were

620
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:19,500
drinking too much or dinner or whatever

621
00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:22,450
but he did like he said you know he

622
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:26,830
brought back the story of the land of

623
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:31,120
cool and if you look at some of these

624
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:32,310
other mythologies

625
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:34,990
especially you know say like German

626
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:38,230
mythology says a lot about cool and then

627
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:40,990
some of the more northern races that

628
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:44,200
live say like in Norway and Finland and

629
00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:46,090
you know even some of the ancient

630
00:28:53,250 --> 00:28:49,060
peoples that live in Siberia they have

631
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:53,260
these similar stories on the land that

632
00:28:59,310 --> 00:28:57,010
exists extremely far north to the point

633
00:29:02,430 --> 00:28:59,320
where it almost seems like it's no

634
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,440
longer part of the regular planet the

635
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:05,520
Inuits of North America you know their

636
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:10,000
creation mythology has it that they came

637
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:12,730
from a land from the far north where the

638
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:15,840
Sun never set and it was always warm and

639
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:18,880
there was an abundance of you know food

640
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:21,370
and it was just really a pretty nice and

641
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:21,760
buyer

642
00:29:26,670 --> 00:29:23,650
which always makes me wonder why Meg did

643
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:26,680
believe he you know to then live in you

644
00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:29,230
know Arctic wasteland so to speak but if

645
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:33,460
you look at - like almost any of these

646
00:29:39,630 --> 00:29:36,870
peoples that live in the far northern

647
00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:39,640
climates they all have very similar

648
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:42,520
stories of originally coming from a land

649
00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:45,670
of Perpetual daylight and a lot warmer

650
00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:48,700
conditions then they live live in now

651
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:50,740
which you know again that goes back to

652
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:53,170
this whole idea of the Hollow Earth with

653
00:29:59,100 --> 00:29:55,810
center Sun because you know if you have

654
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,110
a Sun that is suspended gravitationally

655
00:30:03,570 --> 00:30:01,360
in the center of the planet it's never

656
00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:03,580
gonna say you know so you're going to be

657
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:05,620
living in a place where in seal

658
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:08,910
perpetual daylight's and probably a

659
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,650
tropical environments where you know

660
00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:13,600
it's always warm you know until you

661
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:16,060
start getting to the more northern areas

662
00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:19,260
of the sphere or north or south regions

663
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:21,700
there's a gentleman by dr. Brooke

664
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:25,120
magnums yes he has done some really

665
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:27,310
excellent research I think on this whole

666
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:30,910
idea and you know science postulates

667
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:34,090
that the core of the planet is made up

668
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:36,370
of you know like a highly compressed

669
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:40,030
nickel and steel and iron to the point

670
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:42,520
where it's almost a completely different

671
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:45,730
element because it's is so condensed by

672
00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:48,070
the pressures of the planet and dr.

673
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Agnew I mean you know he suggests that

674
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:52,690
the interior depend it could be Hollow

675
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:55,930
and that this nickel iron core or the

676
00:30:59,610 --> 00:30:57,670
front of the sites you notice I just

677
00:31:03,600 --> 00:30:59,620
love to talk about could actually be

678
00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:03,610
this internal Sun and that there is a

679
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:05,980
pretty good-sized cavity etcetera the

680
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:08,770
planet but that you know our our seismic

681
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:12,490
readings that we use to deduce what the

682
00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:14,850
interior of the planet is made of is

683
00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:19,060
partially in era because I guess so as

684
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:22,120
he puts it some of these seismic

685
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:24,130
readings

686
00:31:31,670 --> 00:31:27,630
the evidence that they come out with

687
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:31,680
seen the same type of material that they

688
00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:34,360
postulated in the you know at the center

689
00:31:40,410 --> 00:31:37,860
of the planet could also be

690
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:40,420
statistically shown to be an open area

691
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:44,920
rather than a crustal formation before

692
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:47,380
you get to the island core so he says

693
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:49,690
that the evidence shows that it could be

694
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:51,490
you know one way or the other and of

695
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:52,930
course naturally he likes to think that

696
00:31:58,290 --> 00:31:54,850
it shows that there's a hollow cavity

697
00:32:00,450 --> 00:31:58,300
boy oh yeah Brooks is great he was a

698
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,460
previous guest one of my favorites to

699
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,320
talk about Hollow Earth but sorry go

700
00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:04,480
ahead no no no no yeah he I mean he's a

701
00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:06,760
great guy you know he's done some really

702
00:32:12,690 --> 00:32:10,540
good research along these lines and so I

703
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:12,700
was going to add that you know naturally

704
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:16,660
I've never been down there so you know I

705
00:32:21,870 --> 00:32:19,180
can't say for sure one way or the other

706
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:21,880
that's true you know I just offered the

707
00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:23,920
theories and my own you know ideas based

708
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:25,960
on these theories and I always leave it

709
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:27,430
up to the you know readers or listeners

710
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:29,980
to make up their own minds of the matter

711
00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:31,810
you know what maybe one of these days if

712
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:33,820
we are able to get down there we'll be

713
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:35,310
able to prove it one way or the earth

714
00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:38,080
hopefully you know that's the way to do

715
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:40,120
it and you're talking about legends and

716
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:42,970
even the legend of Santa Claus comes

717
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:45,340
from Scandinavia and this idea that a

718
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:48,960
man comes from the North Pole and bring

719
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:53,140
gifts or supplies in the harshest of

720
00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:55,000
winter environments I mean that's the

721
00:32:59,820 --> 00:32:56,830
story that's Santa we've turned it into

722
00:33:02,790 --> 00:32:59,830
a materialism consumer fest with all

723
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:02,800
these gifts that came from dear old st.

724
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Nick but the story itself is kind of in

725
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:07,930
that vein of a guy coming from the

726
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:10,150
northernmost point the pole perhaps from

727
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:13,240
inside and bringing supplies I don't

728
00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:14,590
know it it's definitely interesting

729
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:16,800
because so many of the legends of

730
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,870
indigenous people who talk about another

731
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:21,760
type of being it's always about some

732
00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:24,130
kind of helper in most cases like some

733
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:26,380
kind of being that came and led them

734
00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:28,630
down into the earth during a cataclysm

735
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:31,750
or brought supplies so I just think that

736
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:34,630
is an interesting part of modern culture

737
00:33:39,530 --> 00:33:37,320
that kind of harkens back to that idea

738
00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:39,540
well yeah and you could you know you can

739
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:42,120
take that a step further because the old

740
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:44,810
stories that say Nicholas he had his

741
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:48,000
companion Krampus that came with him and

742
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:49,770
you know krump us was always described

743
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,410
as being almost like a demonic type of

744
00:33:57,550 --> 00:33:54,960
entity and that's one of the other

745
00:34:01,120 --> 00:33:57,560
factors of the whole Palo Inner Earth

746
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:01,130
stories is that not only do you have

747
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:04,310
races that live down there that are

748
00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:07,110
spiritually more developed than we are

749
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:09,990
but it's also the abode of you know like

750
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:13,200
devils and demons and creatures of the

751
00:34:18,830 --> 00:34:15,450
nether world the whole Richard shaver

752
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:18,840
garrow's stories goes in that direction

753
00:34:23,390 --> 00:34:21,450
I mean you know the DeRose who are

754
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,400
basically the modern-day equivalent of

755
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:26,220
the devils and demons that love to tour

756
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:28,290
masks so yes you're absolutely right I

757
00:34:32,930 --> 00:34:30,390
mean it's it's very interesting how a

758
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:32,940
lot of these mythologies are still with

759
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:35,850
us today I'll be though in a kind of

760
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:39,690
like a sweet and fairytale types of

761
00:34:43,610 --> 00:34:41,850
versions right but like the modern fairy

762
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:43,620
tales you know if you go and trace them

763
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:45,390
back you know you'll find that they have

764
00:34:50,870 --> 00:34:48,990
some realities to them and oftentimes

765
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:50,880
that you're not quite so pleasant

766
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:55,080
realities man and Antarctica is another

767
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:56,010
thing we were going to talk about

768
00:35:00,890 --> 00:34:59,130
because it is the most under explored

769
00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:00,900
place on the planet really if you

770
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:03,360
discount the oceans and you'd really

771
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:05,640
drown in red tape and regulation trying

772
00:35:10,250 --> 00:35:07,740
to get there and it's been in a lot of

773
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:10,260
alternative news lately the Russian

774
00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:12,330
patriarch the Secretary of State and

775
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,070
Buzz Aldrin all invited down there

776
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:16,800
recently to look at something what are

777
00:35:20,570 --> 00:35:18,450
your thoughts on the story there what do

778
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:20,580
you think could be at the heart of this

779
00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:23,770
kind of provocative mystery

780
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:25,990
it's really been interesting over the

781
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:29,170
past year or so how much attention has

782
00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:32,110
suddenly been given to Antarctica you

783
00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:34,360
know like you said I mean you had a

784
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:37,230
former Secretary of State John Kerry and

785
00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:40,810
Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin going

786
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:41,740
down there

787
00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:46,570
I mean yeah and then of course you know

788
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:49,360
Admiral Byrd back in the 20th century

789
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:52,450
the patriarch of Moscow like you said

790
00:35:58,530 --> 00:35:55,330
you know when what what is going on down

791
00:36:01,980 --> 00:35:58,540
there boy and we can just speculate as

792
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:01,990
much as you want to and a lot of people

793
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:03,570
have will you go on the internet and

794
00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:07,480
google of antarctic mysteries and man

795
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:09,700
you've got everything from the Nazi

796
00:36:14,609 --> 00:36:12,340
secret base to like the Hollow Earth I

797
00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:14,619
was on a show a couple months ago and

798
00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:16,840
the host of that show you know he had a

799
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,360
really interesting idea and we talked

800
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:21,520
about it quite a bit and if it's his

801
00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:23,650
idea that you know the Russians have

802
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:26,590
been drilling into that lake lake vostok

803
00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:29,950
that has been covered in ice for you

804
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:32,590
know millions of years and basically

805
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,740
sealed up whatever had been around in

806
00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:38,320
our environment at the time that it was

807
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:40,600
finally covered over with ice and it was

808
00:36:46,859 --> 00:36:42,490
his speculation that possibly that they

809
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:46,869
discovered in that lake a life-form that

810
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:49,170
for all intents and purposes would be a

811
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:51,430
extraterrestrial and what I'd be by

812
00:36:55,890 --> 00:36:53,260
life-form I mean you know more along the

813
00:36:58,830 --> 00:36:55,900
lines and say like bacteria or virus or

814
00:37:00,300 --> 00:36:58,840
you know not yeah I'm not like an

815
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:00,310
ancient astronaut still swimming around

816
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,890
under there the spacesuit but something

817
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:04,720
more along the lines of an ancient

818
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:07,330
ancestor of ours but this ancient

819
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,480
ancestor you know didn't originate on

820
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:12,079
planet Earth

821
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:14,170
this

822
00:37:22,109 --> 00:37:19,690
descendants ah

823
00:37:22,789 --> 00:37:22,119
like it was a remnant of panspermia or

824
00:37:27,059 --> 00:37:22,799
something

825
00:37:29,970 --> 00:37:27,069
exactly exactly around the time that

826
00:37:33,089 --> 00:37:29,980
this Lake was covered over and that

827
00:37:35,009 --> 00:37:33,099
Antarctica found its way to where it was

828
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:35,019
but they'd have to realize that at one

829
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:39,130
time Antarctica was not located at the

830
00:37:44,309 --> 00:37:42,670
South Pole I'm not quite sure where it

831
00:37:48,269 --> 00:37:44,319
was I mean it was it was definitely

832
00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:48,279
closer to the equator at one time so it

833
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:50,670
had more of a tropical environment and

834
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:53,529
you know at some time in our ancient

835
00:37:59,130 --> 00:37:57,490
past there was some kind of event nobody

836
00:38:03,180 --> 00:37:59,140
really knows for sure what happened well

837
00:38:05,579 --> 00:38:03,190
basically you know almost all life-forms

838
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:05,589
on this planet were killed and that

839
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:09,190
included the majority of undersea life

840
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:12,180
forms as well and then after a

841
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:14,890
relatively short period of time

842
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:18,720
in geological history there was a sudden

843
00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:21,220
explosion of life that came out of the

844
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:24,359
Seas but this life was extremely bizarre

845
00:38:29,999 --> 00:38:27,930
it didn't really resemble the previous

846
00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:30,009
life-forms on the planet before whatever

847
00:38:35,009 --> 00:38:32,950
this cataclysmic event was which has led

848
00:38:38,279 --> 00:38:35,019
some you know scientists to speculate

849
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:38,289
that this new life form and when I say

850
00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:39,250
new life form

851
00:38:47,009 --> 00:38:43,809
it was the seed that that were all

852
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:47,019
descended from you know every all the

853
00:38:53,099 --> 00:38:49,089
life on the planet now descended from

854
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:53,109
this new rather bizarre forms of life

855
00:38:56,910 --> 00:38:55,000
that emerged after this cataclysmic

856
00:39:00,120 --> 00:38:56,920
event some scientists have speculated

857
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:00,130
that this was a cosmic event you know I

858
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:04,240
possibly say like another Sun came close

859
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,150
to the edge of our solar system and

860
00:39:12,749 --> 00:39:09,119
disturb the Oort cloud sending comets

861
00:39:15,779 --> 00:39:12,759
racing into the interior of the solar

862
00:39:19,529 --> 00:39:15,789
system and then bombarding your earth

863
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:19,539
Mars Venus everything and that that time

864
00:39:25,499 --> 00:39:22,960
Mars probably had life on it but do you

865
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:25,509
know that it had an ocean and atmosphere

866
00:39:28,289 --> 00:39:26,410
and

867
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:28,299
that when these comics bombarded Mars

868
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:30,460
they blasted off chunks of the planet

869
00:39:34,099 --> 00:39:32,470
which then fell to earth and we know

870
00:39:37,289 --> 00:39:34,109
that that's true because we have found

871
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:37,299
Martian meteorites in Antarctica

872
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:38,740
you know they stand out very clearly of

873
00:39:45,569 --> 00:39:39,970
course this is from you know later

874
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:45,579
events so it could be that the new life

875
00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:48,520
that arose on earth came from Mars and

876
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:52,420
that we are the Martians so to speak and

877
00:39:57,089 --> 00:39:54,730
this was the idea that this one person

878
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,099
you know suggested to me which you know

879
00:40:02,370 --> 00:39:59,200
like that's pretty good pretty good idea

880
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:02,380
because I mean I do I do believe in

881
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,270
penance for me Leo like you said the

882
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:06,880
idea that the universe is teeming with

883
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:09,010
life and that it's probably constantly

884
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:11,410
you know raining down on us from outer

885
00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:16,089
space in one form or another and the

886
00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:19,780
idea that we involved from some of these

887
00:40:26,789 --> 00:40:23,020
early dustings of life is not too

888
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:26,799
far-fetched to me and considering how

889
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:28,510
long that Antarctica has been frozen

890
00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:33,190
over and with the warming of our climate

891
00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:35,819
and the melting of the Antarctic ice

892
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:39,160
some of these primitive life forms may

893
00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:41,470
be coming out and be revealed which

894
00:40:46,589 --> 00:40:44,260
could be why the sudden interest in

895
00:40:48,809 --> 00:40:46,599
Antarctica and why some of these people

896
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:48,819
are going down there to check this out

897
00:40:53,029 --> 00:40:52,000
you know I mean hey come come and look

898
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:53,039
at your great-great-great

899
00:40:58,410 --> 00:40:54,690
great-great-great great-great

900
00:41:00,569 --> 00:40:58,420
great-granddaddy he's down here yeah I

901
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:00,579
love it and it also kind of could give

902
00:41:03,569 --> 00:41:02,049
some clues as to why a lot of these

903
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,579
people are ending up sick there was a

904
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:05,680
Lockheed Martin guy who got sick there

905
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:07,210
was also of course blows Aldrin butt

906
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:09,940
right in the same vein I took this down

907
00:41:14,730 --> 00:41:12,160
from Joseph Farrell's web site but he

908
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:14,740
wrote about this recently saying as if

909
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:16,510
it couldn't possibly get any stranger

910
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:18,190
there were also these stories several

911
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:20,079
years ago that the Russians had found

912
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:21,970
something near their installations at

913
00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:25,170
the vast under ice lake vostok where

914
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:27,940
there there were emergency evacuations

915
00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:29,529
at the time of people becoming suddenly

916
00:41:32,970 --> 00:41:31,390
sick perhaps the weirdest of all the

917
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:32,980
stories was that the Saudis found

918
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:34,630
something during the next Cove a ssin

919
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:36,329
around the Grand Mosque at Mecca

920
00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:39,430
something which so terrified them that

921
00:41:43,009 --> 00:41:40,380
they turned it over to

922
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,019
rushon to promptly so the story goes

923
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:45,839
took it to Antarctica where patriarchy

924
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:48,690
Kiril performed ancient rituals over it

925
00:41:54,019 --> 00:41:52,130
so that is provocative of course and

926
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:54,029
it's just like what you were saying

927
00:42:00,079 --> 00:41:57,390
something under Lake Vostok possibly an

928
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:00,089
ancient virus of some type or maybe some

929
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:02,609
type of ancient technology that is

930
00:42:06,799 --> 00:42:04,230
giving off some type of radiation

931
00:42:07,249 --> 00:42:06,809
because if it's just a virus I don't

932
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:07,259
know

933
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:11,490
need to go look at it unless it might be

934
00:42:17,539 --> 00:42:14,569
something a little more epic to the eye

935
00:42:20,299 --> 00:42:17,549
yeah you know all of those stories with

936
00:42:21,799 --> 00:42:20,309
the exception of the Saudis discovering

937
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:21,809
something because I don't think that

938
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:24,630
they would be too inclined to give

939
00:42:29,509 --> 00:42:27,630
whatever they discovered to the rest of

940
00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:29,519
this tchen yeah yeah I am a you know the

941
00:42:36,499 --> 00:42:33,000
rest was impaneled so yeah so to speak

942
00:42:37,819 --> 00:42:36,509
you know unless they just gave the but

943
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:37,829
then again why would they why would you

944
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:40,650
give it to to to the Russians if it was

945
00:42:46,009 --> 00:42:43,710
discovered say like in Syria or you know

946
00:42:48,289 --> 00:42:46,019
like one of these countries that is on a

947
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:48,299
more friendly term with Russia go Saudi

948
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:50,910
Arabia more friendly with the United

949
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,140
States right but you know it's like a

950
00:43:02,240 --> 00:42:57,839
it's like I said earlier Antarctica has

951
00:43:04,759 --> 00:43:02,250
not always been covered with ice and in

952
00:43:08,299 --> 00:43:04,769
fact a number of writers have speculated

953
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:08,309
that Antarctica may have been the

954
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:11,670
location of what we call Atlantis right

955
00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:15,200
now you know some kind of anti diluvian

956
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:17,640
civilization that really existed long

957
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:21,150
before modern civilization and it's you

958
00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:23,250
know it's it's its own face it's now

959
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:26,220
covered in almost a mile in most places

960
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:30,210
a mile thick ice sheet but again like I

961
00:43:36,289 --> 00:43:32,609
said with the climate changing and

962
00:43:39,499 --> 00:43:36,299
Antarctica melting as fast as it has it

963
00:43:43,279 --> 00:43:39,509
could very well be that some of the

964
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:43,289
remnants of a lost civilization

965
00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:44,940
and when I say lawsuit was a Shannara

966
00:43:51,289 --> 00:43:47,819
civilization that existed you know more

967
00:43:53,019 --> 00:43:51,299
than a million years ago long before the

968
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:53,029
last ice age

969
00:43:57,699 --> 00:43:55,249
I mean I'm I couldn't tell you offhand

970
00:44:01,059 --> 00:43:57,709
how long Antarctica has been in its

971
00:44:05,499 --> 00:44:01,069
current location but it's been you know

972
00:44:08,859 --> 00:44:05,509
several million years at least so if

973
00:44:11,229 --> 00:44:08,869
they have uncovered remnants of some

974
00:44:12,729 --> 00:44:11,239
kind of lost civilization in that

975
00:44:14,949 --> 00:44:12,739
location you know we're talking about

976
00:44:18,579 --> 00:44:14,959
civilization that existed supposedly

977
00:44:23,409 --> 00:44:18,589
long before modern man was even the

978
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:23,419
gleam in chimpanzees eye right if you go

979
00:44:26,739 --> 00:44:25,249
into the ancient aliens idea I mean

980
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,749
people and that can't believe that

981
00:44:30,969 --> 00:44:29,359
something intelligent made us so clearly

982
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:30,979
there's some kind of intelligence

983
00:44:36,370 --> 00:44:33,650
perhaps in the background way before us

984
00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:36,380
well you know if there was going to be

985
00:44:40,989 --> 00:44:38,829
the remnants of an ancient civilization

986
00:44:43,299 --> 00:44:40,999
Antarctica really is one of the best

987
00:44:45,759 --> 00:44:43,309
locations it's been frozen for such a

988
00:44:48,370 --> 00:44:45,769
long period of time I mean all across

989
00:44:52,299 --> 00:44:48,380
the planet you know we've seen possibly

990
00:44:54,130 --> 00:44:52,309
hints of remnants of some kind of

991
00:44:56,829 --> 00:44:54,140
civilization that existed before the

992
00:45:00,130 --> 00:44:56,839
last ice age but naturally you know due

993
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:00,140
to erosion and other aspects most of

994
00:45:06,279 --> 00:45:02,209
that has long since disappeared

995
00:45:08,739 --> 00:45:06,289
however Antarctica being basically you

996
00:45:11,439 --> 00:45:08,749
know frozen in stasis for so long a time

997
00:45:14,049 --> 00:45:11,449
I mean this really would be an excellent

998
00:45:16,499 --> 00:45:14,059
location to find remnants you know if

999
00:45:19,919 --> 00:45:16,509
they actually existed of a previous

1000
00:45:22,539 --> 00:45:19,929
possibly higher technological

1001
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:22,549
civilization that lived on this planet

1002
00:45:31,709 --> 00:45:26,569
before we did I mean as I I am a firm

1003
00:45:33,939 --> 00:45:31,719
believer that we are not the only

1004
00:45:36,849 --> 00:45:33,949
technologically advanced civilization

1005
00:45:39,699 --> 00:45:36,859
that has existed on this planet I think

1006
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:39,709
that humans are probably a lot older

1007
00:45:46,749 --> 00:45:43,130
than archaeologists give us credit for

1008
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:46,759
yeah we're just now really discovering

1009
00:45:53,769 --> 00:45:51,169
how many subspecies of humans have

1010
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:53,779
existed over the millenniums I mean you

1011
00:45:58,569 --> 00:45:55,369
know we just we just recently discovered

1012
00:46:00,429 --> 00:45:58,579
the Denisovans you know it apparently

1013
00:46:03,279 --> 00:46:00,439
seems to be an offshoot of the D and

1014
00:46:04,989 --> 00:46:03,289
atolls and we had no idea they existed

1015
00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:04,999
but once we discovered that little tiny

1016
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:06,599
finger bone and a case

1017
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:09,900
Siberia and got the DNA out of it you

1018
00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:12,119
know we discovered that there are still

1019
00:46:18,469 --> 00:46:15,660
people you know on this planet that have

1020
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:18,479
the genetic leftovers from this race you

1021
00:46:23,509 --> 00:46:21,630
know still in our genetic makeup so I

1022
00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:23,519
mean it's to me it's not inconceivable

1023
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:27,900
that humans or human subspecies arose a

1024
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:29,940
lot longer on this planet so you know

1025
00:46:34,609 --> 00:46:32,400
back that we care to think about

1026
00:46:37,339 --> 00:46:34,619
and that homo sapiens sapiens is this

1027
00:46:40,759 --> 00:46:37,349
really I think we're justice newcomers

1028
00:46:43,489 --> 00:46:40,769
who knows what kinds of and I'm going to

1029
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:43,499
say hominid you know because I guess I'm

1030
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:47,910
a little biased along the hook line but

1031
00:46:54,789 --> 00:46:51,170
I suppose it's not inconceivable that

1032
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,799
other intelligent species could have

1033
00:47:01,069 --> 00:46:58,079
evolved on this planet long before we

1034
00:47:03,289 --> 00:47:01,079
did that weren't necessarily hominids I

1035
00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:03,299
know a lot of people will be like Isis

1036
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:06,630
crazy talk but you know I mean given the

1037
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:09,180
way that time works and that evolution

1038
00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:12,569
works and the whole creative process and

1039
00:47:18,709 --> 00:47:15,150
life works I mean it's not inconceivable

1040
00:47:21,229 --> 00:47:18,719
that some of the first intelligent

1041
00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:21,239
technological based civilizations on

1042
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:23,160
this planet may not necessarily have

1043
00:47:27,979 --> 00:47:25,200
been human as we think of humans but

1044
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:27,989
right yeah no it's very very conceivable

1045
00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:30,089
and of course the further you go back

1046
00:47:33,709 --> 00:47:31,859
there's going to be diminishing returns

1047
00:47:36,259 --> 00:47:33,719
for what you can actually on earth so

1048
00:47:39,170 --> 00:47:36,269
who knows how far back things go and

1049
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:39,180
another great story you wrote about in

1050
00:47:45,739 --> 00:47:42,660
the details of that book is uh the caves

1051
00:47:46,999 --> 00:47:45,749
in Malta and I found out so interesting

1052
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:47,009
can you tell us about what was found

1053
00:47:52,819 --> 00:47:49,170
when they followed these caves and

1054
00:47:54,709 --> 00:47:52,829
tunnels down as far as they did oh oh

1055
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:54,719
gosh I think you hope to I think you'll

1056
00:48:00,019 --> 00:47:58,140
have to remind me I I can I can so you

1057
00:48:02,299 --> 00:48:00,029
know you have to realize Greg that a lot

1058
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:02,309
of these books being I write them and

1059
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:04,529
then you know I go on to your like

1060
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:06,119
different books so I may not remember

1061
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:06,960
all the details

1062
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:10,380
oh of course well apparently some men

1063
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,329
were digging a well fell into the earth

1064
00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:14,640
found a cave system that opened up into

1065
00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:16,920
multiple chambers and they found that

1066
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:19,790
was underneath Neolithic village and

1067
00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:21,950
stun the stone carvings at the entrance

1068
00:48:26,650 --> 00:48:24,080
to this lower section once they got down

1069
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:26,660
in there they believed that occasionally

1070
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:29,210
a human sacrifice was chained to the

1071
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:30,830
entrance every so often I guess there's

1072
00:48:35,530 --> 00:48:32,750
some kind of indications of that but

1073
00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:35,540
then down even deeper they cleared out

1074
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:37,670
thirty thousand skeletons from a

1075
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:40,880
passageway and found old cave art murals

1076
00:48:46,030 --> 00:48:43,520
behind them and deeper still you find

1077
00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:46,040
what was called the Oracle a hole in the

1078
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:47,660
wall that when you would speak into it

1079
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:50,330
it carried your voice throughout all of

1080
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:52,490
these caves and the theory was that

1081
00:48:59,920 --> 00:48:57,290
someone was using this amplification to

1082
00:49:02,530 --> 00:48:59,930
may be scare the villagers into offering

1083
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:02,540
sacrifices or maybe tell them when they

1084
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:04,370
needed to bring one otherwise they were

1085
00:49:08,350 --> 00:49:06,800
going to have trouble but if you go even

1086
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:08,360
further down from there there was

1087
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:11,330
another room that had a stone altar in

1088
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:13,250
the center and beds carved into the

1089
00:49:19,780 --> 00:49:16,370
walls and in these little bed sections

1090
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:19,790
were little enclaves where people's

1091
00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:21,710
heads would go or their feet would go

1092
00:49:27,310 --> 00:49:24,230
and the indications is that these beings

1093
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:27,320
were four feet tall or some even smaller

1094
00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:29,690
and then it opens up into natural caves

1095
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:32,270
which nobody knows how far that goes but

1096
00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:34,130
I thought that was a pretty amazing

1097
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:36,470
story I even looked up pictures of the

1098
00:49:43,390 --> 00:49:39,710
Maltese cave art and yeah it's really

1099
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,400
interesting that it almost is a parallel

1100
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:45,440
story to the idea of fairy folk

1101
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:47,270
underground or some kind of smaller

1102
00:49:51,370 --> 00:49:49,490
being underground like coming up and

1103
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:51,380
stealing people and maybe they worked

1104
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:53,270
out some kind of King Kong arrangement

1105
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:54,830
where they just give them a person once

1106
00:50:00,730 --> 00:49:56,510
in a while to say them tons of trouble

1107
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:00,740
but I love that story well and Malta is

1108
00:50:07,570 --> 00:50:03,170
also the location of some very

1109
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:07,580
interesting roadways that seem to go out

1110
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:10,160
into the walk they start out on the land

1111
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:14,090
and then and going out into the ocean so

1112
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:17,210
either these were boat docks of some

1113
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:19,010
kind but it's unusual because these

1114
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:21,170
roads but also criss cross they eyelids

1115
00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:23,150
and then eventually it'll lead out into

1116
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:25,430
see you leading some people speculate

1117
00:50:33,490 --> 00:50:30,410
that Malta is what's left of a larger

1118
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:33,500
land you know again arcing back to

1119
00:50:38,650 --> 00:50:36,530
the Atlantis idea and of course some of

1120
00:50:42,130 --> 00:50:38,660
you know we give the idea of Atlantis

1121
00:50:44,770 --> 00:50:42,140
anymore to really any kind of land that

1122
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,780
has sunk the ocean but if you look I

1123
00:50:49,210 --> 00:50:46,880
mean you'll see that all across the

1124
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:49,220
globe there's indications of this that

1125
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:51,920
what now may be nothing more than just a

1126
00:50:54,850 --> 00:50:52,760
little island

1127
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:54,860
you know poke it out from the ocean now

1128
00:51:00,670 --> 00:50:56,810
at one time used to be something that

1129
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:00,680
was landmass that was a lot larger but

1130
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:04,490
the whole Malta cavern situation is

1131
00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:07,250
something that you'll also see in other

1132
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:09,380
locations around the globe I mean there

1133
00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:12,110
are you're almost almost exactly the

1134
00:51:17,890 --> 00:51:14,870
same types of situations where you will

1135
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:17,900
have layer upon layer of caverns with

1136
00:51:22,690 --> 00:51:20,090
the oldest ones being the deepest and

1137
00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:22,700
some of these deepest caverns seem to

1138
00:51:29,140 --> 00:51:26,390
show some kind of human or whatever type

1139
00:51:31,660 --> 00:51:29,150
of activity possibly even you know

1140
00:51:35,770 --> 00:51:31,670
before the last ice age which you know

1141
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:35,780
again according to modern science before

1142
00:51:39,580 --> 00:51:37,970
that I mean humans were really nothing

1143
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:39,590
more than just brute running around

1144
00:51:45,370 --> 00:51:41,690
knocking each other and head with rocks

1145
00:51:47,710 --> 00:51:45,380
no way having the sophistication to to

1146
00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:47,720
carve out these sophisticated cavern

1147
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:50,150
systems that we're finding you or not

1148
00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:52,250
again not only multi-button but in other

1149
00:51:57,780 --> 00:51:54,830
locations and you know you pointed out

1150
00:52:00,460 --> 00:51:57,790
the idea that these caverns were

1151
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:00,470
acoustically perfect to the point where

1152
00:52:07,870 --> 00:52:04,160
at the secret location you could talk

1153
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:07,880
quietly and it would echo throughout the

1154
00:52:13,150 --> 00:52:10,610
entire system almost like like a

1155
00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:13,160
prehistoric PA system there's other

1156
00:52:19,060 --> 00:52:15,940
location you know there is a location in

1157
00:52:22,990 --> 00:52:19,070
New England I think it's in the American

1158
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:23,000
Stonehenge where they have found some of

1159
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:27,200
these underground structures that if you

1160
00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:29,930
go to a certain location speak quietly

1161
00:52:35,890 --> 00:52:32,990
your voice can be heard throughout this

1162
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:35,900
limited area again where it seems to be

1163
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:38,810
that you had somebody like maybe a like

1164
00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:41,720
a priest system that would guide the

1165
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:45,190
population one reason or the other by

1166
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:47,330
pretending to be you know

1167
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,970
spirits or gods or what-have-you and

1168
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:52,400
that that seems to be the situation that

1169
00:53:00,190 --> 00:52:55,790
is going on in Malta you know some have

1170
00:53:03,390 --> 00:53:00,200
speculated that you have these ancient

1171
00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:03,400
locations say like Malta or Egypt or

1172
00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:07,870
even this fairly recently discovered

1173
00:53:12,370 --> 00:53:11,000
location in Turkey you know where

1174
00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:12,380
they've discovered these really

1175
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:15,080
sophisticated megalithic structures and

1176
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:18,590
carvings that go really to the very hot

1177
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:20,650
no it seems to be the very beginning of

1178
00:53:26,050 --> 00:53:23,690
mankind and even a little bit past from

1179
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:26,060
what we thought we knew where there

1180
00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:31,280
seems to have been maybe an outside

1181
00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:36,320
influence going on from yeah and again I

1182
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,430
mean you know you have the ancient

1183
00:53:41,050 --> 00:53:39,520
astronaut theorists who say that

1184
00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:41,060
extraterrestrials from other planets

1185
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:45,380
came here and taught our early ancestors

1186
00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:48,710
you know the ways of civilization by

1187
00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:50,870
either pretending to be gods or just you

1188
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:52,940
know doing you know what they would we

1189
00:53:59,920 --> 00:53:55,370
just interpreted them as gods or it

1190
00:54:03,730 --> 00:53:59,930
could be where you have remnants of an

1191
00:54:06,310 --> 00:54:03,740
even earlier technological civilization

1192
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:06,320
that for one reason or another was

1193
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:09,590
destroyed or died or what have you and

1194
00:54:15,970 --> 00:54:13,040
that you had like these small groups of

1195
00:54:19,390 --> 00:54:15,980
survivors that were scattered across the

1196
00:54:22,510 --> 00:54:19,400
globe and then kind of restarted

1197
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:22,520
civilization from these locations and

1198
00:54:30,190 --> 00:54:26,570
done you know Egypt Malta places and you

1199
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:30,200
know I can China South America places

1200
00:54:34,570 --> 00:54:32,960
like that that seem to be like the seeds

1201
00:54:36,910 --> 00:54:34,580
that's you know that's really a good way

1202
00:54:41,230 --> 00:54:36,920
to describe it they're like seed points

1203
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:41,240
where civilization restarted and then

1204
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:44,480
spread across the globe so you know I

1205
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:46,670
suppose it's a matter of interpretation

1206
00:54:50,650 --> 00:54:48,650
whether or not you know if you believe

1207
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,660
in ancient astronauts or ancient aliens

1208
00:54:54,550 --> 00:54:52,160
you know whether or not these seed

1209
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:54,560
points were brought about by visitors

1210
00:54:59,620 --> 00:54:57,170
from other planets or or we're talking

1211
00:55:01,180 --> 00:54:59,630
about remnants of a past civilization

1212
00:55:02,890 --> 00:55:01,190
you know kind of

1213
00:55:06,190 --> 00:55:02,900
lay in the groundwork for a new

1214
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,200
civilization I'm not discounting the

1215
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:08,720
idea of ancient aliens or ancient

1216
00:55:13,420 --> 00:55:11,210
astronauts I think that is a good

1217
00:55:15,819 --> 00:55:13,430
possibility but possibly that was

1218
00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:15,829
something that happened a lot further

1219
00:55:21,819 --> 00:55:19,550
back then some of these more and I say

1220
00:55:23,890 --> 00:55:21,829
modern what I mean modern I mean you're

1221
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:23,900
just right after the Ice Age I said the

1222
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,050
last ice age but yet I do think that

1223
00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:29,119
that we have been visited you know in

1224
00:55:34,839 --> 00:55:31,880
the past and probably still are by aged

1225
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:34,849
aliens I just think that some of these

1226
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:37,250
places like Malta that you were

1227
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:39,770
referring to could actually be starting

1228
00:55:47,130 --> 00:55:43,670
points or restarting points of survivors

1229
00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:47,140
of a past but now you know destroyed a

1230
00:55:54,430 --> 00:55:50,630
technological civilization hell yeah man

1231
00:55:56,290 --> 00:55:54,440
I'm right there with you and man Tim I

1232
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:56,300
could do this all day but that pretty

1233
00:56:00,490 --> 00:55:57,650
much does bring us to the finish line

1234
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,500
the world is full of weirdness and you

1235
00:56:03,819 --> 00:56:02,000
are doing your damnedest to tell the

1236
00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:03,829
people about it I love it

1237
00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:05,390
let them know where they can get more

1238
00:56:09,309 --> 00:56:07,670
Tim Schwartz in their life definitely

1239
00:56:11,410 --> 00:56:09,319
well you know if you want to read any of

1240
00:56:16,420 --> 00:56:11,420
my books always have to do is just go to

1241
00:56:18,370 --> 00:56:16,430
Amazon type in Tim R Swartz SWA RTZ and

1242
00:56:21,579 --> 00:56:18,380
every book I think that I've ever been

1243
00:56:26,890 --> 00:56:21,589
involved with will show up by my website

1244
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,900
is conspiracy journal dot-com at that

1245
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,359
location you can subscribe to my free

1246
00:56:33,790 --> 00:56:32,000
email newsletter it comes out once a

1247
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:33,800
week it's an aggregate of all the weird

1248
00:56:39,099 --> 00:56:37,040
story that I've wrote across or has been

1249
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:39,109
said to me by many stringers throughout

1250
00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:43,130
the world you can get it by email or do

1251
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:47,390
you know the RSS feeds and it's all the

1252
00:56:56,260 --> 00:56:50,960
strange and weird news that they don't

1253
00:56:58,809 --> 00:56:56,270
want you to know of it is very cool well

1254
00:57:00,400 --> 00:56:58,819
it's been a real pleasure for me thanks

1255
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:00,410
so much for being here and keep fighting

1256
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:01,490
the good side out there

1257
00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:03,290
thank you Greg it's been a pleasure to

1258
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:06,230
be with you today you got it all right

1259
00:57:11,770 --> 00:57:08,450
all right people going back to that good

1260
00:57:13,450 --> 00:57:11,780
old nonpartisan weird stuff 101 big

1261
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:13,460
thanks to Tim he's been in the game for

1262
00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:15,010
a long time

1263
00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:17,140
probably responsible for reducing me to

1264
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:19,180
more than a couple things over the years

1265
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:21,640
if you didn't like this one you are too

1266
00:57:26,670 --> 00:57:24,610
[\h__\h] serious now I don't care you can

1267
00:57:28,650 --> 00:57:26,680
not like this one if you want to but I

1268
00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:28,660
thought it was good fun these are some

1269
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:30,520
of my favorite areas of speculation

1270
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:33,580
enter earth stuff Antarctica stuff that

1271
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:36,730
description of the caves in Malta and I

1272
00:57:40,830 --> 00:57:38,710
would love actually to visit that area

1273
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:40,840
of the world I've been thinking about

1274
00:57:44,370 --> 00:57:42,040
this a lot lately

1275
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:44,380
and I got really the perfect trip I

1276
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:46,540
think the move is to fly in a Portugal

1277
00:57:50,820 --> 00:57:48,550
where the drugs are legal just to get

1278
00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:50,830
the vacation started then you're so

1279
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,750
close to Spain go over to the coast

1280
00:57:57,330 --> 00:57:54,400
where I hear the weather makes it

1281
00:58:00,060 --> 00:57:57,340
Europe's San Diego then you fly across

1282
00:58:02,370 --> 00:58:00,070
that water so picturesque have a few

1283
00:58:04,650 --> 00:58:02,380
glasses of wine and you arrive in Rome

1284
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:04,660
you do Rome for a few days you see that

1285
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:07,030
Colosseum and you are so close to Malta

1286
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:09,490
you hop over you check those caves you

1287
00:58:14,430 --> 00:58:12,940
holler in that wall hole then ladies and

1288
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:14,440
gentlemen you go to Egypt because it's

1289
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:16,930
not far and when you got to get home

1290
00:58:22,350 --> 00:58:19,810
your flight out of Europe it leaves from

1291
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,360
Greece so you make that Egypt Greece

1292
00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:24,480
trip and you think about the old days

1293
00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:29,470
huh I think that's a great two weeks and

1294
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:31,990
if anybody is free this fall let's start

1295
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:34,450
the higher side Travel Group and if it

1296
00:58:39,050 --> 00:58:36,610
goes well our next journey will be to

1297
00:58:41,339 --> 00:58:39,060
find those poles ladies and gentlemen

1298
00:58:44,759 --> 00:58:41,349
just to see

1299
00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:44,769
Antarctica you know it's always on my

1300
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:46,900
mind this is a little something to add

1301
00:58:53,219 --> 00:58:49,119
to the pile along with cliff high from a

1302
00:58:55,289 --> 00:58:53,229
few weeks back so I'm a happy man if you

1303
00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:55,299
listen to the show regularly you know

1304
00:58:59,609 --> 00:58:57,670
that every show is actually two hours

1305
00:59:02,460 --> 00:58:59,619
and I put the first hour out for free

1306
00:59:05,069 --> 00:59:02,470
hoping that you'll like it hoping that

1307
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:05,079
you'll think man this guy does

1308
00:59:09,509 --> 00:59:07,690
phenomenal interviews and I just don't

1309
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:09,519
know what my life would be like if I

1310
00:59:13,859 --> 00:59:11,470
didn't have this great show and this

1311
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:13,869
great resource of amazing authors

1312
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:17,650
lecturers and researchers of the most

1313
00:59:22,289 --> 00:59:21,700
fringe topics known to man what would I

1314
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,299
do

1315
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:24,640
well a show without corporate sponsors

1316
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:26,529
need support sign up for the higher side

1317
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1318
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1322
00:59:45,299 --> 00:59:43,059
calm think about it that's all I'm going

1323
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:45,309
to say in this episode that's second

1324
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,190
hour we get into the Tesla group that

1325
00:59:52,259 --> 00:59:50,079
was tasked with building a ship to get

1326
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:52,269
to Mars responding to a call from

1327
00:59:58,289 --> 00:59:55,210
Martian channelers we got more insights

1328
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,299
from dr. 2d Lockwood we talked to the

1329
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:00,640
Philadelphia Experiment Al Bielek and

1330
01:00:04,890 --> 01:00:02,529
the Montauk Project had to get into

1331
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:04,900
those stories due to Tim's proximity to

1332
01:00:09,989 --> 01:00:07,839
a lot of the major figures in them and

1333
01:00:12,569 --> 01:00:09,999
we talked about Tim's latest stuff like

1334
01:00:14,849 --> 01:00:12,579
time travel and time slip stories the

1335
01:00:18,089 --> 01:00:14,859
hidden agenda of the ultra terrestrials

1336
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,099
and of course more gallon red mercury

1337
01:00:23,569 --> 01:00:20,559
plagues and the deep state everything

1338
01:00:27,479 --> 01:00:23,579
you could want and more you could say

1339
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:27,489
this show is like a Tomahawk missile

1340
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:29,410
strike folks because it covers a lot of

1341
01:00:34,049 --> 01:00:32,049
ground come on over to plus there's

1342
01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:34,059
plenty of signup options I try to make

1343
01:00:37,289 --> 01:00:35,950
it easy I just hope you'll meet me in

1344
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:37,299
the middle if you like the show that I

1345
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:39,609
do but thanks for listening anyway

1346
01:00:45,569 --> 01:00:43,150
everybody that's it I've done my part

1347
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:45,579
your move Hollow Earth hiders into earth

1348
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:03,099
hello you see no random it's attached

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string control over nine five tribes

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still young now going bad dancing feel

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you hello can hear me

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should I play man I'm some spy agency we

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I'll be thankful when

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so typically talk about stuff sorry

1355
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that's good and well did you ever hear

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arguments nothing really happened

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[Music]

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[Applause]